Tuesday, June 03, 2008

[THO] Yup it's my Birthday

And I've been thinking about postmodernity all day. I've been thinking about how the critics of the emerging church like to cast one picture of postmodernity that isn't quite accurate and the emerging church itself resorts to modernist categories to cast it another way that also isn't quite accurate. But at the end of the day the postmodern condition is actually described by this mutual stumbling! It is enough to make ones head swim. So as a remedy I'm letting my lovely wife take me out to a comedy club (my first time ever) and we'll see if by the end of it I'm not laughing at the preposterous poject I call a masters research paper!

9 comments:

steve martin said...

Happy Birthday, Frank!

Today, you are not really full of crap.(at least I hope no one tells you such)

- Steve M.

kns said...

Frank,

Agreed. It is dizzying!

Hank said...

Happy Birthday, Frank!

One of Freedom said...

Thanks all.

Kenny I am liking more the term "postmodern condition" as it seems to encapsulate the reality of this dizzying aspect. Unfortunately I don't think there is any way to innoculate oneself from postmodernity. It is like a virus that has infected the West provoking a plethora of adaptations as our species tries to find the best survival strategy.

BTW the main act was really good.

Hank said...

Frank,

Did you read Chuck Smith Jr.'s The End of the World as We Know It? It's a pretty old book, but I felt like I got a really good overview of postmodernity there. I'd love to hear your thoughts...

One of Freedom said...

Hey Hank. I haven't. It is something I'd like to though, I like reading stuff attached to Vineyard heritage (Calvary Chapel is our roots). I've read a fair number of both popular and academic as well as Christian and secular (I really dislike that word) authors on the subject of postmodernity. Who is Chuck referencing in that chapter? It's not a book in our library. If you have it let me know who he references and it will let me know if it might be worth trying to track down for my research.

Hank said...

There really wasn't *one* chapter, so much as it was the whole book. It was an overview of postmodernism in the general culture, and how the Church needs to understand that there is a seismic generational shift (much like there was a shift from Renaissance to Enlightenment to Modernism). So I'm sure that there were a lot of over-generalizations.

But it was one that cemented in my mind that if we don't at least acknowledge that people don't necessarily think the way we do anymore (or if they ever did) and how we need to use the tools at hand to communicate timeless truths. It was fascinating that he referenced Psalm 11:3 & 4 - If the foundations are destroyed, What can the righteous do? The Lord is in His holy temple, The Lord's throne is in heaven as one of the passages that indicate the foundations of the Modern world are crumbling in the face of Postmodernism (which had been on its way for far longer than we realize), and yet God is still on the throne. Good stuff.

eclecticchristian said...

Hi Frank,

A Vineyard Pastor at St. Paul's. Now that is a cool combination! My name is Mike Bell, lots of Ottawa Connections. Lived in Manotick Station for a few years and attended East Gate Alliance. Your name is familiar as if we once met. Either IT or church. Anyway, my blog is called Notes from an Eclectic Christian at http://eclecticchristian.wordpress.com
I have recently discovered your blog, and like what you write. I was wondering if you might be interested in doing a guest blog for me on what the church as a whole can learn from the emerging church. I am trying to present ways that we can learn from each others as Christians. Check out the blog. Let me know what you think. And... Hope you had a happy birthday.

One of Freedom said...

Hey Mike!

I found your pic on your blog and you actually look a bit familiar. Could be anywhere though, I've been around the Ottawa scene for many years.

Yeah, I'd be honoured. I am in the midst of a big writing project right now though. I have my masters research, which is on the emerging church, to complete. Let me give it some thought, email me at f_emanuel@yahoo.com and we'll establish a line of communication that way.

BTW my birthday was great. Thanks.