tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13643646.post114715165020628565..comments2023-05-19T03:36:11.201-05:00Comments on Freedom Log: What is Freedom?One of Freedomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02479227411431959461noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13643646.post-1147723224208277192006-05-15T15:00:00.000-05:002006-05-15T15:00:00.000-05:00Yeah that's the guy. He kept his philosophy and th...Yeah that's the guy. He kept his philosophy and theology seperate though - which is interesting. Most of my exposure consists of articles from classes and Thinking Biblically which he wrote with Andre LeCocque (biblical scholar). That is a very interesting book.One of Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479227411431959461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13643646.post-1147713863368627342006-05-15T12:24:00.000-05:002006-05-15T12:24:00.000-05:00Do you mean the French philosopher Paul Ricoeur?Do you mean the French philosopher Paul Ricoeur?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13643646.post-1147220549695957592006-05-09T19:22:00.000-05:002006-05-09T19:22:00.000-05:00I guess I didn't do adequately what I had intended...I guess I didn't do adequately what I had intended. That is the downfall of blogging - quick delivery and sometimes the thoughts you throw out there don't say what they would if you had time to really work them through say in a paper. <BR/><BR/>I was asserting the communal as a normative, not an alternative. I think that communal is hardwired in us, it is what drives us so to speak. I don't think it is a prerequisite for liberty/freedom but a framework that freedom has to take into account. <BR/><BR/>I was actually going towards a more Ricoeurian Limits as freedom type approach, which is what I am more comfortable with. But I got lost in the need to tackle the communal as Volf heads in that direction in his work (what I was building on). Volf also gets to the point of limits as freedom but obviously more eloquantly than I did.<BR/><BR/>I'll have to add Skinner to my want to read list. Thanks for the heads up.One of Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479227411431959461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13643646.post-1147216341520538642006-05-09T18:12:00.000-05:002006-05-09T18:12:00.000-05:00Here comes a typical Kenny comment. Be warned. :)I...Here comes a typical Kenny comment. Be warned. :)<BR/><BR/>I can't help but say it Frank, for a declared fan of Charles Taylor, your comments on autonomous freedom of the individual (abstracted from the context of the communal) struck me as a little bit surprising. Taylor makes an eloquent defense of autonomy in - The Malaise of Modernity - but he is no modernist, no individualist. <BR/><BR/>Is freedom/liberty really the opposite of what the modern took it to be? In other words, is the appropriate response to the individualistic notion of freedom (surely an Anglo aspect of modernity not extendable to all other cultures) really asserting the communal? I'm not sure charting the middle course of both/and is right either, but perhaps something over and above those two options that incorporates both from a different vantage point? Just a thought.<BR/><BR/>And, if you're interested, one of the best books on the subject of liberty I've ever read is that of Quentin Skinner, Liberty before Liberalism. Another excellent text is Isaiah Berlin's collection of essays on liberty. <BR/><BR/>Kudos on the good quesiton/thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com